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11:43pm, 29th Feb 2008   bbc2 is doing a 'white' season

mr_xxxtreme

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i dont have a prob with them doing a 'white' season (although isnt every season on tv a white season? du dum tish!) and apparently this is about working class white britain, which i think is good - about time really, but from what safraz manzoor was saying on newsnight, this sounds like it might be a bit sensationalistic, about how white britain is 'under threat' from ethnic immigrants (again). if thats true, it seems a bit irresponsible imo, even if it is just people being honest about how they see things (what about w/c white ppl who work side by side with black/asian ppl and dont think were just ruining everything though? i hope theyll show some of that too). should be interesting anyway. although if its about modern working class identity, why not call it that instead of just 'white'?

anyway - heres the link -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/white/





03:49pm, 2nd Mar 2008   bbc2 is doing a 'white' season

sharpharps

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Msg no: 229221

i think the main point is that its about white WORKING CLASS people, its probably more to to with the working class and how they've been affected by the changes in society recently, ie. badly
I think that they have a valid point meself.


08:11pm, 2nd Mar 2008   bbc2 is doing a 'white' season

mr_xxxtreme

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Msg no: 229225

why not call it WORKING CLASS season then? by calling it white theyre inferring that this is about working class as the 'real' or ultimate symbol of 'whiteness' in this country. ive no prob with them doing something on working class white people, esp when people think its okay to throw 'chav' around like its nothing and take the piss, but the way this is being pitched is a bit worrying to me.

ill reserve full judgment til i see the programmes of course, but the advert - where a white guy gets his face written on in non english languages in black marker until hes written on so much that his face turns black was a bit fucked up to me, esp cos at the end the tagline is 'has white working class identity dissapeared'. its implying all the usual xenophobic shit about immigrants 'ruining' traditional 'british identity' (as if trad brit id wouldnt have changed without immigrants), totally replacing it with a foreign culture and burying all notions of englishness and sullying this once great country from what it used to be etc etc.


08:12pm, 2nd Mar 2008   bbc2 is doing a 'white' season

mr_xxxtreme

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Msg no: 229226

and the thing is that most of the time, these types of things point the figure at immigrants, cos its an easy target, rather than the white middle/upper class people who control this country.


08:52pm, 2nd Mar 2008   bbc2 is doing a 'white' season

sharpharps

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Msg no: 229228

well the way i see the advert is that its how they percieve themselves and how they feel that immigration (among other things) has affected them.
it'll be interesting i think.
i do hope that it dosnt come across a finger-pointing so lets wait and see.
is working class the job that you do or is it a social group you belong to?
I thought i was working class because of the job i was doing but my friend pointed out that i definately wasnt "working clas", my upbringing and my education showed that.


09:08pm, 2nd Mar 2008   bbc2 is doing a 'white' season

mr_xxxtreme

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i dont mind seeing a docu or programmes how immigration has affected, whether its good or bad, im just tired of seeing it represented as purely negative, and MPs and other ppl in power (who know we need immigrants and benefit from them in many ways) appeasing everyone who thinks its negative by going along with that bollocks rather than offering a fair picture of it. THAT would be nice imo. and a channel like bbc2 should be doing that instead of making what from the looks of it is gonna be stupid daily mail-type shit. ill wait to see it though - hopefully ill be wrong. i dont think class is about what job you do, its more about your upbringing, where you grew up, and how, etc etc. class is basically the uk version of caste.



11:54pm, 2nd Mar 2008   bbc2 is doing a 'white' season

merkin

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Msg no: 229231

its on bbc2 too. thats some 'credible' shit right there.


09:42am, 3rd Mar 2008   bbc2 is doing a 'white' season

spoon

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Msg no: 229236

if it was called 'working class' season, people wouldn't be talking about it already on internet forums and stirring up interest.


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