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02:02am, 28th Feb 2008   has science disenchanted the world?

merkin

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this board bores the tits off me at the moment, so i wanna add something that im hoping might get a few sensible non-bhatra orientated replies which might engender further discussion in that ethereal other realm, reality. to the topic at hand, bledz!

the past 400-odd yrs have seen the rise of mechanical, social, and cultural progress. from a world where the average businessman led a life not too dissimilar from the average peasant, science has taken us to a world where we can quantify how much we are worth by dint of our material possessions; increased our life span (so we can spend more time gathering these "precious" items of value), and brought us to an age where the world is, at most, a mere 14 hours away. or even 14 seconds away. the world wide web gives us the world at our fingertips, and not just our worlds, other peoples too. but even with all this accessability, how many of yoou can say you explore the world, taking it in in greater detail than HDTV, finding solace in nature?

the biggest challenge facing humanity, they call it. global warming is a part of our reality, one which we created, and one which we will have to destroy for us to survive. but has all our tinkering with the world left us without the imagination and pride to actually find a solution? will we just look about us, and throw chemical fire at the problem, in an effort to save us? or can we actually see what lies ahead of us, and what is right infront of us, and put these together in such a way that nature no longer feels the cold splicing of sciences scalpel?

im gonna let my pile of steaming typed diahorrea sit here on this board, and fester. and hopefully, from it, will sprout the fungii of good discussion. i await ur replies with baited breath.

/merkin




11:28am, 28th Feb 2008   has science disenchanted the world?

SATPAL

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Msg no: 877781

interesting.

the question is, do you want to save the human race, or, do you want to save the planet?

ultimately, i think money is the root of the evil rather than science. science can save lives and possibly regenerate the world. but money, products, are a hindrance and creates the most waste. with money comes power, without money how do you survive?

imagine if you can just bully someone into giving up some land. you make a house from scratch with raw materials. you live on crops that you grow and where do you put your body waste? what do you wear? how would you feel? how would you smell? how would you clean?

i think we're probably better off how we are.


07:58pm, 2nd Mar 2008   has science disenchanted the world?

neo

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Msg no: 877803

i think the internet is an incredibly huge step for us.

going from having information only available locally. and restricted by price.

and all of a sudden available all over the world to anyone with a net connection for free.

its just blurred all the barriers. and touched every part of life.

i'd like to see a comparison of how the world was 50 years ago and, in another 50 years time from now, how the change in availability of information has changed the world.


12:04am, 3rd Mar 2008   has science disenchanted the world?

merkin

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Msg no: 877804

imagine if you can just bully someone into giving up some land. you make a house from scratch with raw materials. you live on crops that you grow and where do you put your body waste? what do you wear? how would you feel? how would you smell? how would you clean?

huxley said some good shit about this in a book of his, but its name escapes me.

but neo, is it good thing or a bad thing? has the internet made the world lose some of its wonderous properties? f'sho it has, cuz rite now manz dem are replyin to this, when manz dem really should be appreciating the beauty of sleep, innit.

iv more to write on this, but i was waiting for a few more replies...plus my original post wasn't as coherent as it could have been. lame.


09:29am, 9th Mar 2008   has science disenchanted the world?

village_idiot

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Msg no: 877827

it's not science but corporate interests which
are stifling science and true progress, the
way we discover the world has been
modified to fit the corporate model. There
are fascinating discoveries / inventions out
there, but because of greed or no economic
value in our system they're suppressed, or
lauded as cowboy science. The capitalists
killed Tesla man. My two cents.


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