| 01:12pm, 7th Jan 2008 |
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warriors_of_truth
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Msg no: 877145
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What makes me laugh are these skinny little cricketers starting on Symonds, they must have a death wish! |
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| 06:55pm, 8th Jan 2008 |
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Bhaju81
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Msg no: 877183
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Warriors of truth did you even watch the game or understand cricket ? Who started on who ? It was Symonds who walked up to Harbhajan in between deliveries completely unprovoked and he said it himself in the subsequent press conference...so it was he who started it !!
Symonds also gloated in the press conference after the Aussie first innings that he knew he had clearly edged it, that is childish and was always gonna anger the opposition.
Whats laughable is that the Aussies are so good at dishing it out but as soon as they get something thrown back they go running to the umpire ! imagine if the opposition did that everytime they played them ??
Ponting knows his team were under the cosh throughout the whole match, he has proved he is magnanamous only in victory(rmemeber the Ashes 2005 and Sub-fielder arguments !) |
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| 07:57pm, 8th Jan 2008 |
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warriors_of_truth
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Msg no: 877184
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Now now no need to get worked up, I have got a clue about cricket, dont mind watching it sometimes. Symonds seemed to be getting it from the Indians when the series took place in India (which occurred 1st!), so hes probably just getting his own back now that hes in his back yard, seems fair to me. If you cant take it dont give it, thats my motto! Bottom line is he would kick bhajis ass. |
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| 08:51pm, 8th Jan 2008 |
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Bhaju81
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Msg no: 877185
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At least u admit to your lack of knowledge. Symonds wasnt giving anything to anyone (except u seem to have taken a fancy to him!)
He's the one who went running to the umpire, as soon aas someone raised their voice to him.
Fact is that the Australians have always been the instigators of sledging or 'mental disintegration' as Steve Waugh called it, whereas the Indians have always tended to be the 'soft touch', until ganguly took over. Now the Aussies clearly cant take their own medicine and it shows. They are a great cricket ing side but when it comes to integrity, they have very little.
Symonds was involved in many altercations in the last India-Aus series and also at the Twenty20...its hardly likely he was the poor victim in many (or any) of them. |
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| 03:54am, 9th Jan 2008 |
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Bishop
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Msg no: 877186
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Don't get me wrong I do agree it was amateurish umpiring which, was a contributing factor India losing this Test but at the sametime India would've backed themselves to knock over Hogg, Lee and Johnson despite Symo not being given. Between them they amassed around 150 runs. Haydo's knock in the second innings was more or less chanceless. Hussey's lbw decision around the wicket was plumb because it him on the full.
I still think credit has to be given to the quality of cricket Aussies played as they did hit back in typically classic style. You need a shred of luck at times the Aussies got bowls of it on this occassion and made it count when it needed to be counted. That's where they differ to other teams including the Indians. So, I wouldn't say Ponting's men are only magnanamous in victory. I'll never forget that innings he played in Bangladesh in early 06 where they were shaping upto lose that Test.
I recall the commentators saying Clarke's dismissal in the second innings was eventually proved to be conclusive in the end (only just - after viewing many replays) but it was the hypocriticalness of Ponting which, bemused everyone. He always reaches an unofficial understanding with the oppositon captain that any dodgy catchesat slip will not be referred to the third umpire but the decision of the player will matter/count and instead he goes running to the umpire like a pussy desperately pleading Clarke took it cleanly. Dravid was dropped prior to his dubious decision let's not forget that either.
As for who started all these shanenigans. Well, I'm gonna bite my teeth and say it was Sreensanth and Singh back in the ODI series - to an extent anyway. I remember when he was taking a dab at the Aussie batsman in a game they lost when they were heading off to the pavillion and how he was notoriously appealing for a run-out which replays showed was inexplicable for Sreesanth to do. India were quick to declare we're gonan fight fire with fire against the Aussies before the series started and now they find themselves in garam-pani.
We're now heading to Perth. If Hogg gets banned for the bakwaas he dished out at Kumble and Dhoni then they'll play a four-prolong pace attack. I can't wait to see Tait sticking a few bumpers up the noses of the Indians at pace. If the WACA pitch plays anything like we saw in that Twenty20 encounter with the Kiwis earlier in the season then India better take some lessons how to slam-dunk cuz they'll be hopping around on their toes.
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| 09:01am, 9th Jan 2008 |
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warriors_of_truth
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Msg no: 877187
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Ok I know nothing about cricket and love Symonds |
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| 11:21am, 9th Jan 2008 |
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wizard23
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Msg no: 877188
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behead symonds
burn all australians
kill bucknor
riottttttttttttttttttt lol |
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| 01:32pm, 9th Jan 2008 |
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kaalia_81
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Msg no: 877192
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Symonds is one of the most provacative cricketers out there, he is always rubbing opposition players up the wrong way and everyone in cricket knows it.
What happen in India, was a couple of the new generation india players tried to give it back to him, if anyone deserved it then it was the likes of symonds, arrogant unsportsman like example of Aussie cricket at its worst is he. |
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| 01:34pm, 9th Jan 2008 |
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kaalia_81
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Msg no: 877193
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its not only indians or non-aussies saying this about symonds and the bad example and poor show by ponting, the aussie media, respected chaps like peter roebuck and ex aussie cricketers have lambasted the likes of symonds behaviour to court extreme reactions from likes of harbhajan but also the shamful captaincy and behaviour of ponting recently and past matches. |
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| 02:18pm, 9th Jan 2008 |
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kaalia_81
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Msg no: 877195
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Aussie press lashes ‘ugly’ cricketers
Sydney, Jan. 8: Australian media turned on the nation’s world champion cricketers over a bitter dispute with India on Tuesday, branding their behaviour "boorish" and "arrogant", with one newspaper demanding captain Ricky Ponting be axed.
Sydney’s Daily Telegraph said the crisis that had engulfed the game since Australia’s ill-tempered second Test victory over India here on Sunday was the worst since the infamous Bodyline series against England in 1932-33. The row erupted after Indian spinner Harbhajan Singh received a three-match suspension for allegedly calling Australia’s only black player Andrew Symonds a "monkey" and the Indians accused the host nation of not playing in the spirit of the game.
"The arrogant Ponting must be sacked," ran the front page headline in the Sydney Morning Herald, while the banner heading the Australian newspaper’s feature page screamed "Ugly Australians".
With India delaying the next stage of its tour Down Under over spinner Singh’s suspension for racism, the media turned the spotlight on the Australian behaviour that has left the tourists seething.
"It has become apparent in recent years that the attitude and behaviour of Australian players worsens the moment their superiority is seriously challenged," the Australian’s Mike Coward wrote.
He said the Australian cricketers regarded themselves as hard-nosed and aggressive but failed to understand that many in their own country and beyond found their antics "boorish, arrogant and ungracious".
The Sydney Morning Herald’s Peter Roebuck singled out Ponting as the main culprit, saying he should be sacked because he was so intent on victory that he allowed his team to behave in a way that embarrassed Australia.
"He turned a group of professional cricketers into a pack of wild dogs," Roebuck wrote, citing the failure by some players to walk when clearly out, the sledging aimed at the Indians and Australia’s strutting victory celebrations. (AFP)
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| 02:36pm, 9th Jan 2008 |
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Bishop
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Msg no: 877197
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I agree, it is an area of major concern and one they need to address and remedy quickly.
In response to that article; then again:
nother problem with this decision is that treatment at the school's health center is confidential under state law. Though children would need to have their parents' permission to seek treatment at the clinic (which also treats the common cold or headaches), parents would not necessarily know if their child was prescribed birth control pills or given other forms of contraception. The only way parents would be aware is if their child came to them and told them.
Source: http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ausvind/content/current/story/330016.html |
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| 02:38pm, 9th Jan 2008 |
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Bishop
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Msg no: 877198
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Oops, wrong copy/paste.
Cricket Australia (CA) threw its weight behind Ricky Ponting and his team-mates against accusations of unsporting behaviour and said sparks are bound to fly when the game is Test cricket and not "tiddlywinks".
CA chief executive James Sutherland looked unperturbed by the barrage of criticism that has been hurled at Ricky Ponting and his team-mates for their behaviour during the Sydney Test against India. At the post-match press conference, Anil Kumble, India's captain, pointedly remarked, "Only one team was playing in the spirit of the game."
According to Sutherland, Ponting and his men might have mouthed a word or two in the heat of the moment but they never overstepped the line. "Test cricket is what is being played here. It's not tiddlywinks," said Sutherland, asserting Australia always played the game hard but fair.
"It's a tough game and out there from time to time emotions will bubble over and perhaps some of the words that are said will not be acceptable in genteel company. But they are said and that is what happens.
"The Australian cricket team plays the game tough, tough and uncompromising. It's the way Australian cricket teams have played the game since 1877 under all sorts of different captains. That is the way Australians have expected their teams to play."
Sutherland said Australia had improved their behaviour since 2003 when then captain Steve Waugh introduced a spirit of cricket pledge to curb on-field sledging. "The Australian cricket team will be the very first to admit that they are not perfect. They don't get it right all of the time. But they get it right a lot more now then they used to."
However, Sutherland said he expected Ponting to hold peace talks with the Indian team. "A number of days ago he made the offer to Anil Kumble for them to get together and talk through any differences of opinions and reconcile any differences that might be existing between the two captains and the two teams," Sutherland said. "I am very confident that that will happen."
Source: http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ausvind/content/current/story/330016.html
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Border and Waugh blame cultural misunderstanding
Allan Border and Steve Waugh, both former Australia captains, have suggested that cultural misunderstandings could have contributed to the race row boiling over to the point of India suspending their tour. Border said that while he thought Australia had no need to apologise for their on-field behaviour, which has attracted widespread criticism, it was time for international sides to start understanding each other more.
"What we think is just routine banter they take offence at - it is straight-out cultural stuff," he told the Courier Mail. "The cultural issues were always there in our day. When we say 'lucky bastards', they [West Indians and Indians] might take offence at that."
Waugh said that the senses of humour in Australia and India are, in his opinion, very different and that when Harbhajan Singh called Andrew Symonds a 'monkey' he may not have meant it as offensively as it was interpreted.
"An Indian crowd [...] will happily join in a chant in much the same way as the Aussie crowds call Hadlee "a w*****" and yell in unison "no ball" when Murali delivers his first ball," he wrote in the Sydney Daily Telegraph. "If Harbhajan did say it [monkey], it is both puerile and stupid after he was warned during the last one-day series. Clearly this can be viewed as racist but many on the subcontinent also see it as their way of 'taking the mickey'."
Nevertheless, he doesn't believe Australia should apologise for their attitude. "Teams playing against Australia fail to understand that banter, gamesmanship, sledging or whatever anyone would like to call it is just the way Australian kids joust and play in the schoolyard and backyards. On the other hand, Australian teams can't stomach time-wasting and perceived manipulation of the rules, including calling for runners, over-appealing and the alleged altering of the condition of the ball."
He suggested a better solution would have been for the players to have discussed the incident off the pitch which may have prevented it escalating to a near-boycott. Border pointed out that the teams no longer fraternised so closely in the dressing rooms, leaving it less likely that arguments would be resolved easily.
"Perhaps the stakes are higher. As soon as you become professional, the stakes do become higher. You have comitments to getting yourself right the next day. The media coverage of the game is an nth-degree change from my era. All that stops players getting to know each other because they just don't see each other."
Wasim Akram, meanwhile, has fanned the flames of the row engulfing world cricket by effectively labelling Australia "cry babies". Akram, the former Pakistan allrounder, believes that Australia give as good as they get and that what happens on the pitch should stay on the pitch.
"I have played a large part of my cricket against the Aussies. Sometimes they said stuff, sometimes we did and then we moved on," Akram told India's Hindustan Times newspaper after Ricky Ponting reported Harbhajan for his on-field comment. "We did not behave like cry babies and drag it to the officials [...] They do it constantly and much more than anyone else. So how they can go out and complain about other teams, I don't know."
Harbhajan was banned for three Tests, which India are appealing, and the former great Kapil Dev told the same paper that the ruling was too harsh. "It is surprising and unfair. The Indian team is one of the most gentle teams in the world."
Source: http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ausvind/content/current/story/329710.html |
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| 06:50pm, 10th Jan 2008 |
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Bhaju81
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Msg no: 877222
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Alan Border makes a genuinely good point about the cultural differences thing, and how Monkey is a common (mild) insult on the subcontinent and likewise 'bastard' is the same in Oz.
But the point is not even whether Bhaju said it or not, but the process Proctor used to get to his decision. i.e. simply taking the Aussie's word for it over the Indians. |
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