| 08:09pm, 22nd Mar 2006 |
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nubbin
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Msg no: 859329
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We get pissed off at getting called coconuts... You get pissed off at getting called bhangra dancing medics...
WHEN WILL THE PISSING OFF END?!
Don't take it personally. I patronise everyone.  |
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| 08:19pm, 22nd Mar 2006 |
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Fojee_Rajpuri
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Msg no: 859332
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Fair enough, nubbin.
But it's been happening to me lately and quite frankly it becomes monotonous.
Yes, I happen to love Gurdas Mann; yes, I am applying to read Law; no, I do not know who/what/where The Streets are; I haven't had the pleasure of dating a black man... SO FUCKING SHOOT ME! |
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| 08:41pm, 22nd Mar 2006 |
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nubbin
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Msg no: 859333
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I haven't dated a black man either, but I know who The Streets are.
Not knowing that?! Dude that's just being uncool. :P
The monotony goes both ways. People hate to be stereotyped because it makes us feel less unique.
The worst feeling in the world is to know that people think you're the same as everyone else. |
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| 08:45pm, 22nd Mar 2006 |
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foolishfaery
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Msg no: 859335
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The worst feeling in the world is to know that people think you're the same as everyone else.
Gotta disagree...what about being like no one else at all and being labelled a freak?
I know who The Street's are but why do they have to be so darn annoying? |
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| 08:53pm, 22nd Mar 2006 |
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nubbin
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Msg no: 859336
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Nope.
Freak is "cool" these days.
People try so hard to be different that they're actually like everyone else.
But they don't want to be told that. ;) |
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| 09:03pm, 22nd Mar 2006 |
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foolishfaery
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Msg no: 859337
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Ah, but the "cool freaks" are like all the other cool freaks so they don't count.
I'm talking about the "real" freaks? They are tuly alone...
I'd also like to point out that I know how politically incorrect that sounds. |
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| 09:05pm, 22nd Mar 2006 |
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nubbin
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Msg no: 859338
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I didn't mean it was literally the worst feeling in the world. :P
Just for the "cool freaks". :D |
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| 09:10pm, 22nd Mar 2006 |
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foolishfaery
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Msg no: 859339
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I know you didn't but I was just looking for a reason to procrastinate :) |
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| 09:39pm, 22nd Mar 2006 |
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nubbin
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Msg no: 859342
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That makes 2 of us! |
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| 10:26pm, 22nd Mar 2006 |
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Fojee_Rajpuri
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Msg no: 859354
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No, wait, I knew who The Streets were!
Dammit- why must I always come up with witty rhetoric 3 hours after an argument! 
Still, point made! |
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| 10:29pm, 22nd Mar 2006 |
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nubbin
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Msg no: 859356
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Haha. :P |
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| 10:32pm, 22nd Mar 2006 |
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Fojee_Rajpuri
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Msg no: 859358
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nubbin will you be my big, black lover?
I feel oh so empty  |
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| 10:35pm, 22nd Mar 2006 |
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nubbin
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 859360
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Yea OK.
But I ain't black breeeeeee... White trash from Essex, innit! |
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| 10:44pm, 22nd Mar 2006 |
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Fojee_Rajpuri
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Msg no: 859363
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So long as you're not brown :P |
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| 09:28am, 23rd Mar 2006 |
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spazzz
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Msg no: 859375
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The Streets--new album out soon i think :)  |
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| 05:24pm, 28th Mar 2006 |
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Red_Indian
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Msg no: 859797
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No such thing as unique. Poeple try too hard to be different nowadays. It's boring. |
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| 05:38pm, 28th Mar 2006 |
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suk_my_chitterjuice
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Msg no: 859801
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were all rebelling against something
when we find out what it is, we become unique... |
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| 05:56pm, 28th Mar 2006 |
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nubbin
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 859803
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I'm rebelling against rebellion. |
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| 07:39pm, 28th Mar 2006 |
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Fojee_Rajpuri
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 859812
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No such thing as unique. Poeple try too hard to be different nowadays. It's boring.
My point exactly! Kids today, eh? |
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| 08:46pm, 28th Mar 2006 |
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suk_my_chitterjuice
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Msg no: 859814
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nubbin, that would make u a square...
with your neat little hair and your neat little cubicle and your neat little house in the neat little suburbs...
:( i always had u down as more of a curvy, yielding kind of thistle |
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| 08:57pm, 28th Mar 2006 |
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nubbin
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 859817
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But I'd be rebelling. :( |
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| 10:26pm, 28th Mar 2006 |
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suk_my_chitterjuice
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Msg no: 859823
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so u would be an angry square
massive difference, no? |
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| 10:29pm, 28th Mar 2006 |
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nubbin
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 859824
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But as I'd be rebelling against rebellion, I'd be a rebel and hence not square. :(
I can be a thistle. :( |
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| 10:40pm, 28th Mar 2006 |
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suk_my_chitterjuice
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Msg no: 859825
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but the fact remains that you are rebelling AGAINST rebelling
being a rebel is the opposite of being a square, but are rebelling against the act of rebelling, i.e. being a rebel, QED u are a square |
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| 10:57pm, 28th Mar 2006 |
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nubbin
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Msg no: 859827
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But I am still partaking in the act of rebellion. Hence negating the squareyness?
Oh come on, just love me. :( I need affection. |
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| 11:12pm, 28th Mar 2006 |
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suk_my_chitterjuice
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Msg no: 859829
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i thank the lord u exist every day u post
will that do you? |
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| 12:28am, 24th May 2006 |
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Fojee_Rajpuri
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Msg no: 862442
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Continuing this theme I hear it is quite in vogue to be associated to peoples of other ethnic minorities, for example Blacks and Hispanics, but association with white folk is not endorsed?
Is there someplace one can go to ascertain appropriate street vernacularism so that in future, God forbid, I don't perpetrate such unseemly improprieties?
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| 12:36am, 24th May 2006 |
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nubbin
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 862443
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Don't get it. :S |
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| 12:47am, 24th May 2006 |
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Fojee_Rajpuri
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Msg no: 862444
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My "Southall" mate Rav phoned and asked who I was going out with on Thursday night (the night I break up from school)
I replied "Tim and them lot"
He laughed.
I enquired as to why my response proved so amusing- to which he so eloquently retorted "Dem lot are all goreh, innit?"
"Well, with a name like Tim Brunton I suspect he may be white, yes. Is that a problem?"
"Nah man just we're all goin Schemer. Oh and Blazer's bringin' his boys down."
"Blazer? Is that his christian name or..." and you can imagine how the rest of the conversation went on.
Point is, my pal Rav found it amusing that I socialise with white people, while his company only consists of Black people.
Is this normal? Or have I unwittingly floundered the rules of Asian savvy, yet again? |
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| 12:53am, 24th May 2006 |
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nubbin
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 862445
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OOOhhh... I see it dem ting. This thread is more about hypocrisy than cliches?
Dude, you're more of a coconut than you though. Just join the dark side. :) |
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| 12:53am, 24th May 2006 |
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nubbin
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 862446
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than me*
Sorry. Brain = mush. :( |
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| 02:06pm, 24th May 2006 |
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Fojee_Rajpuri
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 862460
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Take that back or I'll stuff you like an aloo parantha. |
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| 03:12pm, 24th May 2006 |
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blue345
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Msg no: 862463
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"I hear it is quite in vogue to be associated to peoples of other ethnic minorities, for example Blacks and Hispanics, but association with white folk is not endorsed?"
Interesting thread. I also wonder sometimes if these ethnic minorities have the same outlook, i.e blacks want to be like asians/hispanics, but not whites...
I've never seen it myself...
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| 03:17pm, 24th May 2006 |
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Fojee_Rajpuri
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 862464
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Of the few Hispanics I know they seem liable to show admiration for Black culture- i.e. they dress like American hood rats and wear ostentatious jewellery.
We all know about Asian kids... but the day I hear of someone dying to colour their hair using mehndi and demanding the right to chew paan I'll be stumped! |
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| 03:23pm, 24th May 2006 |
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blue345
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Msg no: 862465
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its weird, asian kids seem to be the only ethnic group wanting to disassociate from themselves, yet woukld be damned to be associated with 'whites'
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| 03:28pm, 24th May 2006 |
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Fojee_Rajpuri
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Msg no: 862466
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Valid point. Rather sad state of affairs too.
But how about the phenomenon of the "Wigga".
Whites disillusioned with their skin colour trying to be Black. |
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| 03:55pm, 24th May 2006 |
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Jess_Bhamra
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Msg no: 862467
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Interesting thread, Fojee. |
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| 03:55pm, 24th May 2006 |
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[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 862468
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lol, oh yeh...but that i think is a very minor phenomenon, higlighted by the likes of eminem. i dont think its anywhere near as apparant as they way it is with asians trying to be black
also...i reckon part of the reason asians will never associate themselves with whites, or think its uncool etc etc is because a lot of them are too narrowminded to see past the two main stereotypes they have of white English people, this being:
a) chav/council estate type
b) lord of the manor type
both of which are associated as having racist tendencies...
now if asians realised that there is more to white ppl than the above two categories, then we wouldnt get people like your eloquent friend 'rav' who u quoted above...(and trust me i've met many a rav type in my life too, sad but what can we do?) |
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| 03:56pm, 24th May 2006 |
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blue345
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Msg no: 862469
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^^^ that was me by the way |
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| 04:24pm, 24th May 2006 |
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bloodytongue
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Msg no: 862471
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frankly seeing a bunch of asians with caps on and addidas tracksuits going yeah blood, yeah blood; fucking annoys me... they are fucking cliches, shoot the fuckers in their head. |
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| 04:31pm, 24th May 2006 |
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missjy
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Msg no: 862472
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>>So many people think they're unique in that they forego listening to Bhangra/ studying Law; Medicine; IT/ living in Southall yet do these people not join the masses alongside them?
I haven't read thru all the thread, but it reminded me of my cousin...she left home, went away to uni, never came back, every time she comes home it's for weddings or whatever, thinks she knows it all cos she lives in an apartment rather than a semi like everyone else, goes drinkin with white ppl, hasn't got married and produced loads of kids, I remember her at weddings looking down her nose at everyone....but bumped into her a few years ago and she was really regretful that she wasn't married with kids and all that she had missed out on...so yh it's nice being 'different' and a 'oh-so modern' coconut...but we all crave the same things.... |
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| 04:46pm, 24th May 2006 |
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Fojee_Rajpuri
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Msg no: 862473
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Here's something else to consider, blue.
You said that the prevelance of the Wigga is negligable. I must disagree.
I also think that "chavs" in fact display a quiet admiration for Black culture, whilst paradoxically expressing contempt for ethnic minorities.
I'll never forget seeing a chav shout abuse at a black man in Southwark whilst simultaneously listening to 50 Cent.
The mind boggles.
bloodytongue- my point exactly. And I'm the one derided just for being a "typical", freshy Asian...
missjy- you is feelin' my flow aye? The Brown Peoples' Complex is a sad thing- you should be proud to be Desi, hunna. |
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| 04:50pm, 24th May 2006 |
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missjy
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Msg no: 862474
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u can be british & asian and happy!!
& I think most ppl of this generation are- as comfortable in their jeans as they are in asian clothes, happy hanging out with their mates in a club and yet happy eating daal at home with mum, able to have fun with ur mates wherever, yet enjoy family functions- and I think the ability to have the best of both worlds is great and rather than hide from it, embrace it!! |
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| 04:57pm, 24th May 2006 |
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Fojee_Rajpuri
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 862475
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Perhaps we can start a pressure group of sorts.
Missjy you may be our leading spokeswoman.
I think Rishi Saha uses PP too- legend that he is- maybe we can seek his help too, dammit!
Revolution, I say! |
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| 04:59pm, 24th May 2006 |
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missjy
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Msg no: 862476
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wow thank u, I'm honoured!
But I do think that things will change with the current generation...when I was teaching I noticed how comfortable the teenagers were with their duality, whilst my generation kinda lost the plot & way!
Who's Rishi Saha?! |
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| 05:03pm, 24th May 2006 |
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Fojee_Rajpuri
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 862477
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Only the most prominent young British Asian conservative in London!
http://www.conservativefuture.com/cfpeople/profile.cfm?obj_id=90697
The current generation are a bunch of noobs- just check the threads around here and you get an insight! |
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| 05:09pm, 24th May 2006 |
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missjy
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Msg no: 862478
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Lol, when I was teaching I came across alot of noobs, but that's the young for u!
bless that Rishi Saha, he looks abt 12!
>I see the poverty that often engulfs our inner cities.
good on the lad...and that comment of his links to my first one! |
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| 05:14pm, 24th May 2006 |
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Fojee_Rajpuri
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 862479
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There y'are missjy :)
I hope you vote Tory now, young lady.
Alas, I must depart to spread the word.
You can catch me on Ealing Broadway in about half an hour with a placard and mega-phone.
Cheerio! |
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| 06:21pm, 24th May 2006 |
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nubbin
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Msg no: 862483
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You're definitely becoming more coconut.
It's OK. I'll be your friend. :)
Actually no. Fucking Tory.
GO AWAY. |
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| 07:08pm, 24th May 2006 |
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Fojee_Rajpuri
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 862488
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Do one. I'm not one of you- I am no coconut.
Don't fancy voting Conservative?
Fine. Wallow in the gutter along with those other tree-hugging, backwards Liberals leeching off the state.
/Tory Boy |
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| 07:18pm, 24th May 2006 |
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nubbin
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 862489
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HAHAHA. You're so much of a coconut it's not even funny. :P
OOOOOOOO, you're become cliche.
Surely conservatism is more about being backwards and reluctant to change? :P They're tree-huggers in disguise.
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| 07:26pm, 24th May 2006 |
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[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 862490
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Erm, excuse me but I'm from West London, love. Punjab's 19th provincial district!
Conservatism is not about being backwards.
It's about preserving traditional values and the promotion of rugged individualism. Change can be pursued if it is for the good.
I'd say it's more backwards to sit on your ass in some sink estate and leech off welfare while complaining... |
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| 07:39pm, 24th May 2006 |
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nubbin
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 862491
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preserving traditional values
Backwards.
Traditional values do not apply to today's society. |
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| 07:40pm, 24th May 2006 |
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nubbin
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 862492
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I'd say it's more backwards to sit on your ass in some sink estate and leech off welfare while complaining...
That's the most stupid fucking statement ever.
I'm a liberal and I don't live in an estate and leech off the state.  |
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| 07:44pm, 24th May 2006 |
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Fojee_Rajpuri
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 862494
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I don't know where in the above I said "nubbin, you live in an estate and leech off the state..."
Plus, students don't wash so entry is barred. |
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| 03:40pm, 1st Jun 2006 |
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[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 862975
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this debate only makes sense for me if we invert it
i guess i´m a coconut on the outside but a would-be bhangra dancing desi on the inside
anyone else out there like me? thought not...
all my friends are white but that´s coz i live in spain, i think if i had grown up in the uk i'd have gone the way of traditional asian values coz white british culture is zenophobic racist etc etc- even my (white) european friends agree
so i´m moving to the uk soon, anyone got any tips on what to do to become more...asian?
i don't mind if i turn into a cliche...
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| 03:42pm, 1st Jun 2006 |
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dogbrain
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Msg no: 862976
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i'm dogbrain btw |
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| 03:43pm, 1st Jun 2006 |
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inders
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Msg no: 862977
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i direct nameless to chillin. |
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| 03:51pm, 1st Jun 2006 |
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[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 862979
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I don't mind true Indians when they come over here. I find its the British Asian kids who reckon they're in touch with their culture the most, (listening to Bhangra, going to exclusivly Asian nights, living in exclusivly Asian areas and hanging around with exclusivly Asian people) are the ones that give 'freshys' a hard time.
If you don't know how to fit in here, how on earth are you going to fit in Punjab/India/Pakistan where the population is massivly diverse and don't share any common experience with you. |
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| 01:00pm, 4th May 2008 |
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Fojee_Rajpuri
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 878104
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I hate all Asians.
Discuss. |
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| 02:13pm, 4th May 2008 |
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Sid20VT
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Msg no: 878109
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"
frankly seeing a bunch of asians with caps on and addidas tracksuits going yeah blood, yeah blood; fucking annoys me... they are fucking cliches, shoot the fuckers in their head."
Too fucking right!!! |
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| 03:13pm, 4th May 2008 |
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Fojee_Rajpuri
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 878113
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Quite.
How dare they wear sporting gear when not partaking in a spot of physical competition.
How uncouth. |
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| 03:55pm, 4th May 2008 |
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Red_Indian
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 878119
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"I hate all Asians.
Discuss."
I think you do, well a little bit.
But you don't hate yourself, so not ALL Asians. |
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| 04:01pm, 4th May 2008 |
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Fojee_Rajpuri
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 878125
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I hate Pakistanis.
Asian women.
Bangladeshis.
Anyone from Ferozpur.
The Ahmadiyya community.
You.
Gujaratis.
That Asian chap who insists on calling me "Son" every time I buy cigarettes from his shop.
Shahrukh Khan.
In fact: anyone who isn't a Punjabi Sikh and is not either of Jatt or Rajput stock and from Hoshiarpur.
And doesn't support Liverpool.
I don't ask too much... |
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| 05:37pm, 4th May 2008 |
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PhatBoy
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Msg no: 878156
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I hate asians that don't realise they have a rich history and culture...
I'm pretty "coconutty." In fact, i'd be a bounty bar if i were any more, however, i realise that there is a vast history and culture that i should be proud of - because the history of India is absolutly amazing.
I also hate asians that slate their religion in order to seem cool or justify their own actions... there is a clear difference between what is written and what is culturally accepted -
i hate people that are like "i don't call myself sikh/hindu/bhuddist/jain or whatever because of reason XYZ..."
they don't realise 9/10 times its not their religion, it's how they've been brought up...
i have no qualms if they actually know what the hell they're talking about and make a conscious descision to not follow a religion...
so i guess i hate ignorant people. |
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| 06:09pm, 4th May 2008 |
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Chyld
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Msg no: 878178
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People are afraid of being who they really want to be and are afraid of realising who they really are because it might frighten them when they realise that the imprint of their percieved self is not who they really are at the core.
So in essence , people cuss/slate/point fingers at others who remotely, covertly or overtly threaten their so-called "identity" because they assume its a personal attack upon their being.
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| 07:25pm, 4th May 2008 |
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Fojee_Rajpuri
[Profile - Diary]
Msg no: 878194
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People are afraid of being who they really want to be and are afraid of realising who they really are because it might frighten them when they realise that the imprint of their percieved self is not who they really are at the core.
I'm scared of that to be honest.
Realising you can change so much just shakes me up.
It's happening to me- great feeling but I do get anxious at how much I've changed.
Rather embarrassingly. |
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