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12:04pm, 21st Feb 2008   The work-health/life balance

sixth

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Johnson plan for 'well note culture'

http://www.epolitix.com/EN/News/200802/26a866f0-2810-434c-b4cb-f585500755e3.htm

Health secretary Alan Johnson has outlined plans aimed at changing Britain's "sick note culture" into a "well note culture".

Johnson is urging GPs to issue "well notes" setting out what tasks a worker can perform, instead of certificates signing them off all work.

In a speech to the British Heart Foundation on Wednesday, he pointed to Department of Health figures which show that once people have been on incapacity benefit for two years or more, they are more likely to die than work again.

"Incapacity benefit should not be a one-way street that starts in the GP's surgery and stops at the dead end of a lifetime on benefits," he said.

"The evidence shows that far from being bad for health, work is generally good for people's health.

"In fact, staying in work or returning to work is often in a patient's best interests.

"We want to explore what else GPs can do to change our sick note culture into a well note culture."

The British Medical Association has expressed fears that the new measures could force GPs to police the benefits system.

But Johnson, speaking on BBC Radio 4's Today programme, said the government had been consulting GPs' bodies.

"What they are telling us is that this form - the MED3 - which has been unchanged for the last 60 years - essentially gives them no choice but to say someone is fit for work or unfit for work," he said.

"It doesn't allow them to concentrate on the positive, what people can do."


DO YOU PEOPLE THINK THE CURRENT DEBATE AROUND THE 'WELL NOTE' CULTURE IS THE RIGHT WAY FORWARD?




01:09pm, 21st Feb 2008   The work-health/life balance

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I think more can be done by the employer rather hitting out at GP's.

The amount of employers who do not consider the ergonomics around office enviroments, or they do but too stingy to cough up a little bit more for a more healthier enviroment.

More people are off sick for back pains, or Repetitive strain injuries or even Work-Related Musculoskeletal Disorder. Simply because they havent had the right training or tooling to be comfortable at work.

Simply things like how to use your chair, humdity, lighting, screen at eye level. When theses sort of things are addressed.

A healthier work enviroment brings results. In 2006 2million people went off sick due to work-related injuries.

So lay off the GP's more needs to done at work.


03:23pm, 21st Feb 2008   The work-health/life balance

inders

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Msg no: 37128

More people are off sick for back pains, or Repetitive strain injuries or even Work-Related Musculoskeletal Disorder. Simply because they havent had the right training or tooling to be comfortable at work.

I disagree with all of that. These training sessions are just bull, manual handling training consists of a few hours of telling you not to bend your back and not to lift too much.

People like going off sick. Some people think of it as an extension of their annual leave. It doesn't matter what training you give, or what bizarre rules you place on the process of getting sick pay people will find a way of claiming it.

Obviously that excludes people who are genuinely sick. They'll probably end up being frog marched back to work.


06:47pm, 21st Feb 2008   The work-health/life balance

sixth

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Msg no: 37129

I think that Alan Johnson has placed too much empthasis on GP's and not enough on the employer. They need to show employers why workers take sick leave and how they can do more to aid retention. for example, maybe the employer should keep in touch with the employees when they go on sick leave and put in place the right equipment and procedures needed to help employees return to work, this then might help reduce the 2 year gap.

I think the debate is the right way forward as it raises awareness on the issue.


11:17pm, 21st Feb 2008   The work-health/life balance

jake_the_muss

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To an extent Inder i agree with you. You do find people will take sick as part of their annual leave. Maybe thats Alan Johnsons way of adressing dodgy sick notes.

But what i talk about is actual sick employees who have damaged themselves through lifting, or driving 8hours a day without breaks. Even working as a receptionist not sitting at a correctly at their desk, and sloaching over desk whilst using a computer. All theses will cause injuries. Im not talking instant injuries. But will caused gradually over a length in time.

Sometimes just having the correct chair, foot rest, lifting in the correct manner, monitor arms for screens. Will help reduce absentees.


09:22pm, 24th Feb 2008   The work-health/life balance

Smooth_stallion

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Msg no: 37145

how about in some areas, allowing people to have discounted [or free for the tramps] gym access... see how they like it. if the idea works, or shows signs of progression then more cheaper and accessible sports/fitness activities may be a route to follow for a healthier nation. i've often wondered how it'd work in durrty south luton


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